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最佳第六人奖是否应该命名为吉诺比利奖?哈夫里切克有话要说?

wxchong 2024-07-07 00:11:01 开源技术 25 ℃ 0 评论

The NBA Should Rename the Sixth Man of the Year Award after Manu Ginobili

NBA应该用马努-吉诺比利的名字重新命名年度最佳第六人奖项。

No other player as good as Manu ever agreed to come off the bench during his prime for the good of the team. Check out the list of top career +/- since 2001. Manu is 4th. Scroll until the entry for the next player that didn't play the majority of his career as a starter. I'll wait.

从来没有一个马努-吉诺比利级别的球员在巅峰期为了球队利益接受替补的角色。大家去查查从2001年开始的职业生涯正负值排名表吧,马努排在第四。继续往下翻,看看你翻多久才能发现又一个职业生涯大部分时间不是首发的球员。我陪你慢慢等。

Manu is in a league of his own among 6th men, and his willingness to put the team first should be commemorated. What better way than to rename the 6th Man of the Year award?

论第六人,马努可为独占一档。他心甘情愿将球队置于第一位的态度需要得到表彰!还有什么比重命名最佳第六人奖项更好的方法吗?


[–][SAC] Jason Williamssnowlarbear 15 指標 6小時前

no they're going to rename it for Melo.

不不不,联盟会为了安东尼重新命名最佳第六人的。

[–]Knicksanditcounts 172 指標 6小時前

Ayy P, if I come off the bench will they name the award after me

尼克斯球迷:嘿泡椒,如果我打替补的话他们会为了我重新命名最佳第六人呢![译注1]

[译注1]:上赛季初,安东尼在新闻发布会上曾对记者抛出的关于打替补的问题不屑一顾:“嘿泡椒!他们说我得打替补!”

[–]Warriorsjaqueass 1040 指標 7小時前

If you're gonna do that, it should at least be the Sixth Manu of the Year.

勇士球迷:如果联盟准备这么做的话,至少也要改成“年度最佳第六马努(Man-Manu)”吧。


[–]Kobe_is_the_goat824 378 指標 8小時前

Didn't John Havlicek come of the bench during the Celtics 60's and average 21/7/5 or something

60年代绿军的约翰-哈夫里切克不也是替补吗?而且好像还场均21/7/5来着。

[–]LakersILOVEBASKETBALL24_8 1352 指標 8小時前

Yah but manu just retired and I didn't watch Havli so this means more to me

湖人球迷:是呀,但是马努刚刚宣布退役,我也没有看过哈夫里切克打球,所以这对我来说更重要。

[–]Raptorsgarynevilleisared 508 指標 8小時前

Pretty much every argument made on r/nba

话题区的每个论点其实都可以按照楼上的格式编写。

[–]BDMayhem 147 指標 8小時前

Just wait until Lebron retires.

等着看詹姆斯退役之后这帮人能搞出什么花来吧。

[–]LakersILOVEBASKETBALL24_8 319 指標 8小時前

"We should rename the NBA 'LeNBA' and require everyone to retire his jersey."

湖人球迷:“我们应该把NBA重新命名为‘勒职篮’,并且命令所有球队退役勒布朗的球衣。”

[–]Spurskorny4u 88 指標 8小時前

I'd be fine with us retiring 23 across the league after Lebron retires.

马刺球迷:其实吧,我还是挺赞成詹姆斯退役后全联盟退役23号球衣的。

[–]Heattiddymeat 187 指標 8小時前

We're way ahead of you over here in Miami

热火球迷:我们迈阿密可谓是高瞻远瞩的时代先驱了。


[–]BURRITO_JONES 79 指標 8小時前

It should either be The Havlicek 6th Man of the Year Award, or Bobby Jones 6th MOY Award. The NBA existed prior to 2002.

要么是“哈夫里切克年度最佳第六人奖”,要么是“博比-琼斯年度最佳第六人奖”。NBA可不是诞生于2002年。

[–]LakersCanYouDigit34 150 指標 8小時前

for /r/NBA, the NBA doesn't exist prior to like 2011.

湖人球迷:对于话题区的各位来说,在2011年前NBA根本就不存在。

[–]Bullsraebake 58 指標 8小時前

The Celtics Big Three era is ancient history to this community. Obviously talking about Garnett/PP/Allen, because Bird/Parrish/McHale was something only their grandpa saw.

公牛球迷:对于话题区来讲,凯尔特人三巨头时代都已经是很古老的传说了。很明显我说的是加内特/皮尔斯/雷阿伦,因为伯德/帕里什/麦克海尔是只有他们爷爷辈才看过的三巨头。

[–]CelticsMdotsnyder 40 指標 7小時前

All the other awards are older guys and the logo is West so I mean. Why can’t a post 1990 guy get an award?

凯尔特人球迷:所有其他的奖项都和那些老家伙有关,而且NBA的标志也是杰里-韦斯特。那为什么九十年代后的球员不能有一个属于自己的奖项呢?

[–][GSW] Zarko CabarkapaIAmNotKevinDurant_35 33 指標 8小時前

The NBA existed before Russell too and they named the finals MVP award after him

勇士球迷:在比尔-拉塞尔之前NBA就存在了,然后联盟以他命名了FMVP。

[–]Celticshdhdhdhdhdhdhdhd 37 指標 8小時前

Im confused by your logic. The reason that finals mvp is named after Russell is because he won 11 championships while being the best player on his team not because he played in an earlier era of the NBA. Winning 11 championships in 13 seasons is pretty deserving of that honor no matter the era or the amount of teams in the league. So your statement makes literally no sense.

凯尔特人球迷:楼上老哥,我有点被你的逻辑弄懵逼了。FMVP以拉塞尔命名是因为他作为队内最好的球员总共带队赢下了11座总冠军,而不是因为拉塞尔在NBA初期时代打球。无论是在哪个时代,无论联盟有多少支球队,在13个赛季中赢下11座总冠军的表现都是绝对值得这样的荣誉的。所以你的观点是完全没有任何道理的。


[–][SEA] Tom ChambersOmniblink 41 指標 9小時前

As great as Manu was as a 6th man, that privilege should belong to John Havlicek.

虽然吉诺比利作为第六人很出色,但这样的特权应该属于约翰-哈夫里切克。

[–]Spursglorioushubris[S] 80 指標 8小時前

When Havlicek entered the league, there were only 9 teams. Coming off the bench means something a lot different now than it did then.

马刺球迷:当哈夫里切克进入联盟的时候,联盟只有九支球队。在现在这个时代接受替补角色和那时候相比,是有很大的区别的。

[–][SEA] Tom ChambersOmniblink 57 指標 8小時前

Hondo is the greatest player to ever be a 6th man. The original "Super Sub." If anyone should have the 6th man award named after him, it's John.

哈夫里切克是所有打过第六人的球员中最伟大的。他就是“超级替补”祖师爷。论以自己的名字重命名最佳第六人奖项,他当仁不让。

[–]Thunderthe2ndandnotonly 298 指標 8小時前*

We get it. Old greats who played in a 8 team league were really good.

雷霆球迷:行了行了我们都知道啦别絮叨了。在只有8个球队的联盟打球的远古名宿可真厉害呢。

[–]SpursJenks44 174 指標 7小時前

Everything should be named after Lakers and Celtics greats, everyone else can fuck

off with their "basketball teams."

马刺球迷:按他们的观点,一切都应该以湖人队和凯尔特人队的名宿来命名。其他的什么“篮球队”都可以往后稍稍了。

[–][BOS] Rasheed WallaceCasuallyHuman 85 指標 6小時前

That's what I've been trying to say for ages

凯尔特人球迷:是呀是呀,这么多年了,终于有人懂我想说啥啦!


[–]Mavericksomokok1049 34 指標 8小時前

That's going to be a hard pass for me.

独行侠球迷:十动然拒。

[–]meming_and_dreaming 72 指標 7小時前

he won the award once while others have several under their belt. that's a no from me dog

马努只拿过一次最佳第六人,而其他几位赢过好几次。所以我也不赞同。

[–]Kingskolorete 60 指標 6小時前

5 players won twice.

Jamal Crawford won it 3 times.

历史上有5个球员赢过两次最佳第六人,

而贾马尔-克劳福德得过三次。

[–][SAS] Malik RoseGolai77 30 指標 6小時前

The Jamal Crawford award gives me an entirely different impression than 6moty.

I like Crawford, but his game is street ball incarnate. No defense, excessive dribbling and wanna-be hero shots. Great FT shooter though and he seems like a great dude. I'm happy Crawford took Dejonte under his wing.

马刺球迷:对我而言,贾马尔-克劳福德奖和年度最佳第六人奖完全有不同的内涵。

我喜欢克劳福德,但是他是典型的街球打法。没有防守、过度运球并且爱投高难英雄球。不过他是一个优秀的罚球手,并且看起来也像一个和善的老哥。看到克劳福德带着默里成长,我真的很开心。

[–]RaptorsCharwinger21 31 指標 6小時前

I wonder if Lou Will will be able to join him.

He's sitting at two right now and has had two other seasons in the top 3 (including #2 in 2011-12 behind Harden), but he's not really a 6th man any more (33 MPG and led the team in minutes played, but the Clippers were throwing other players in for the first minute of the game so that he wouldn't get counted as a start).

猛龙球迷:我在想路威会不会加入克劳福德三次最佳第六人的行列。

目前他已经坐二望三了,并且有另外两个赛季在年度最佳第六人排名中排在前三(包括2011-12赛季排在哈登后面),但是他已经不再是一个真正意义上的第六人了(场均上场33分钟,在出场时间上领先全队,但是快船会先甩一个球员首发打几分钟,这样路威就不会被认为是首发了)。

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